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Derecho
06-08-2011, 01:34 AM
At 125am EDT Environment Canada sent out this bulletin, doesn't specify what warning it is or where it is for.

SEVERE WEATHER BULLETIN
ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA
AT 1:25 AM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.
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==DISCUSSION==
AT 1:20 AM WEATHER RADAR SHOWS AN INTENSE THUNDERSTORM OVER THE
NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE CITY OF HAMILTON. ROTATION SHOWING ON THE
RADAR AND A SPOTTER REPORT INDICATES THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR A
TORNADO WITH THIS THUNDERSTORM. THE THUNDERSTORM IS HEADING
SOUTHWARD AT 60 KM/H.

At 148am EDT, 23 minutes later, Environment Canada corrects the warning so it gets issued, but by now the storm isn't even in Hamilton.

SEVERE WEATHER BULLETIN
ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA
AT 1:48 AM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.
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WATCHES/WARNINGS IN EFFECT FOR SOUTHERN ONTARIO...

TORNADO WARNING FOR:
=NEW= CITY OF HAMILTON.

AT 1:30 AM WEATHER RADAR SHOWS AN INTENSE THUNDERSTORM OVER THE
CITY OF HAMILTON. A SPOTTER REPORTED A POTENTIAL TORNADO AND
THE RADAR IS INDICATING SAME. THE INTENSE THUNDERSTORM IS
MOVING SOUTHWARD AT 50 KM/H.

Amazing work Environment Canada!

Derecho
06-08-2011, 01:46 AM
Also, I have CHCH on, which is the only tv station in Ontario who have signed up for the new emergency alert system, and they haven't even broadcast the warning.

I tell ya, this is just getting ridiculous. Also, I'm listening to the scanner out of Hamilton and there are multiple reports of damage.

Twister
06-08-2011, 01:47 AM
I was excited for this site when I first stumbled across it. A better name for it would be www.bashEC.com. Maybe that will explain why there are only 42 active members.......
I wont be back.

xxCanuck
06-08-2011, 01:51 AM
I was excited for this site when I first stumbled across it. A better name for it would be www.bashEC.com. Maybe that will explain why there are only 42 active members.......
I wont be back.

They corrected their Tornado warning when the storm isn't even in Hamilton. Should they be applauded for this?

Nagii
06-08-2011, 01:52 AM
I was just speaking with someone on Yahell chat about this cell, he said he was worried his house would fall over.

Derecho
06-08-2011, 01:52 AM
I was excited for this site when I first stumbled across it. A better name for it would be www.bashEC.com. Maybe that will explain why there are only 42 active members.......
I wont be back.

Perhaps if our officials and weather service could do things right and professional we wouldn't have to complain about them.

A tornado at night in a major metro is a very serious and life threatening situation. There is no excuse for taking 23 minutes to fix the tornado warning message in a situation like this. It wasn't even sent through the first time because no area was specified. The bulletin probably just sat on Environment Canada's computer and they took no care to even double check it was in order.

Derecho
06-08-2011, 01:56 AM
Yay! Look who came late to the party!!!! The storm is over Lake Erie anyway.

RED ALERTS
June 08, 2011 2:01 AM
THE PROVINCE OF ONTARIO HAS ISSUED A RED ALERT

DUE TO A TORNADO WARNING IN THE CITY OF HAMILTON.
Emergency Situation: Environment Canada has issued a Tornado Warning in an area described as THE CITY OF HAMILTON

Recommended Actions: Emergency Management Ontario recommends that persons in the area described above IMMEDIATELY shelter. Everyone in this area should immediately move indoors, and away from doors and windows, preferably into a basement area if that is possible. Do not pick up family members from schools, daycares and institutions such as hospitals and nursing homes. Plans are in place to protect them. People currently outside this area are advised not to enter this area until further notice. If it is safe to do so, pets and livestock should be removed quickly from outside. Do not call 911 for information about this emergency.

This will end at 0300 Hrs, unless a further extension is requested.

DarkSky
06-08-2011, 01:59 AM
thread created - i'll move posts into here

davefootball123
06-08-2011, 02:16 AM
IT WAS AN INSANE STORM. I WILL SEE WHAT I GET IN THE MORNING

DarkSky
06-08-2011, 02:36 AM
793 WUCN11 CWTO 080510
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING
UPDATED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA
AT 1:10 AM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.
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SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING FOR:
=NEW= SIMCOE - DELHI - NORFOLK
=NEW= DUNNVILLE - CALEDONIA - HALDIMAND
=NEW= ST. CATHARINES - GRIMSBY - NORTHERN NIAGARA REGION
=NEW= BURLINGTON - OAKVILLE
BRANTFORD - COUNTY OF BRANT
CITY OF HAMILTON
HALTON HILLS - MILTON
CALEDON
WATERLOO - WELLINGTON.

SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING ENDED FOR:
LISTOWEL - MILVERTON - NORTHERN PERTH COUNTY
ORANGEVILLE - GRAND VALLEY - SOUTHERN DUFFERIN COUNTY.

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==DISCUSSION==
A LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS BETWEEN MILTON AND PARIS IS MOVING
SOUTHWARD AT 70 KM/H. HAIL TO 2 CM, HEAVY RAINFALL, WIND GUSTS TO
90 KM/H ARE THE MAIN THREATS.

SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ARE IMMINENT OR OCCURRING IN THE AREA.
THESE STORMS MAY PRODUCE LARGE HAIL, DAMAGING WINDS OR HEAVY
RAINFALL. REMEMBER THAT SOME SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS CAN ALSO PRODUCE
TORNADOES.

MONITOR WEATHER CONDITIONS AND TAKE IMMEDIATE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS IF
THREATENING WEATHER APPROACHES.

END/2/OSPC

DarkSky
06-08-2011, 02:37 AM
509 WFCN11 CWTO 080543
TORNADO WARNING
ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA
AT 1:43 AM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.
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TORNADO WARNING FOR:
=NEW= CITY OF HAMILTON.

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==DISCUSSION==
AT 1:30 AM WEATHER RADAR SHOWS AN INTENSE THUNDERSTORM OVER THE CITY
OF HAMILTON. A SPOTTER REPORTED A POTENTIAL TORNADO AND THE RADAR IS
INDICATING SAME. THE INTENSE THUNDERSTORM IS MOVING SOUTHWARD AT
50 KM/H.

SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS LIKELY PRODUCING TORNADOES ARE IMMINENT OR
OCCURRING IN THE AREA. LARGE HAIL, DAMAGING WINDS AND HEAVY RAINFALL
MAY ALSO ACCOMPANY THESE STORMS.

MONITOR WEATHER CONDITIONS AND TAKE IMMEDIATE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS IF
THREATENING WEATHER APPROACHES.

END/OSPC

Twister
06-08-2011, 02:41 AM
They corrected their Tornado warning when the storm isn't even in Hamilton. Should they be applauded for this?

They put out a Tornado Warning, so yes they should be applauded. If they didn't, the discussion would be about that.


Perhaps if our officials and weather service could do things right and professional we wouldn't have to complain about them.

A tornado at night in a major metro is a very serious and life threatening situation. There is no excuse for taking 23 minutes to fix the tornado warning message in a situation like this. It wasn't even sent through the first time because no area was specified. The bulletin probably just sat on Environment Canada's computer and they took no care to even double check it was in order.

I get it - yes a very dangerous situation, and things take time. Thank God for spotters on the ground that relayed what they saw for them to issue a warning in the first place.

My beef is that when you look at the first page of "The Truck Stop", there are multiple posts bashing EC. Heck why not make that a sticky topic and go wild! This is a weather forum, lets talk about the WEATHER. All the EC complaints have been discussed over and over and over and over etc.

I know I've grown old of it and that's why I don't visit much. I know others who feel the same way. I just want to see some cool weather photos and read some weather discussions. This site has great potential - don't ruin it.

And I'll clear the air before someone jumps down my throat - I don't work for EC. I'm just an active weather fan.

Derecho
06-08-2011, 02:47 AM
They put out a Tornado Warning, so yes they should be applauded. If they didn't, the discussion would be about that.


The screwed up the tornado warning at 125am and it wasn't dispatched. It wasn't until 148am they corrected it and dispatched it. By then the storm was over Haldimand County, so why didn't they extend the warning southeast then, right?

I agree sometimes we can be a little hard on Environment Canada, but that is only because they have an absolutely terrible track record with issuing late or false warnings. And those weather warnings are extremely important and must be timely and accurate for public safety. Any chaser knows that.

Fatalefemme
06-08-2011, 03:00 PM
I was kinda freaked out by this warning at 1:30am. I heard a few rumbles and I thought it might be a truck or something passing by, but when I went out to investigate it, there were hundreds of strikes of lightning that I didnčt notice before because I have my windows blacked out. I was really excited, but also worried because I seen 6 watches and warnings posted on theweathernetwork.ca. It definitely was an intense storm. I actually started getting my 6 cats into the basement because a Tornado warning was posted for my area and they said that I need to get into a basement immediately. Well, I waited it out and by that time, the storm seemed to have passed. I was a little shaken up because I dont see many official tornado warnings for Hamilton. Apparently, from what I have heard, there might have been one on Hamilton Mountain. Nothing is confirmed yet I think. Anyway, I hope we get more of these. We might get some action tomorrow morning... at least I hope so! GOOOO TORNADOOO!!!!!

Derecho
06-08-2011, 08:19 PM
No tornadoes confirmed from this mornings storms.



UPDATED WEATHER SUMMARY FOR ALL OF SOUTHERN ONTARIO AND THE
NATIONAL CAPITAL REGION ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA
AT 7:54 PM EDT WEDNESDAY 8 JUNE 2011.

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==WEATHER EVENT DISCUSSION==

THE VERY ACTIVE THUNDERSTORM-PRODUCING WEATHER PATTERN CONTINUES.
ANOTHER ROUND OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS RACED ACROSS AREAS EXTENDING
FROM SOUTHERN GEORGIAN BAY ACROSS THE KAWARTHAS TO THE OTTAWA AREA
EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON. STRONG WINDS, TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS AND
INTENSE LIGHTNING WERE REPORTED IN QUITE A FEW AREAS AS THE FAST
MOVING THUNDERSTORMS RACED ACROSS.

ANOTHER LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS RACED ACROSS PARTS OF THE
GREATER TORONTO AREA INTO EARLY THIS EVENING. TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS,
STRONG WINDS, HAIL AND INTENSE LIGHTNING WERE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE
THUNDERSTORMS.

REPORTS OF SEVERE WEATHER RECEIVED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA AS OF
7.30 PM ARE FOUND IN THE TABLE IMMEDIATELY BELOW.


TIME LOCATION EVENT

1.30-2.00 PM MUSKOKA DISTRICT POWER LINES DOWN
LAKE OF BAYS

1.30-2.00 PM ACTON ISLAND/ NUMEROUS
TREES DOWN MUSKOKA LAKES


1.30-2.00 PM BRACEBRIDGE POWER OUTAGE
TREES DOWN

2.00-3.00 PM MINDEN TREES DOWN/TREE DAMAGE
SOUTHERN HALIBURTON
KAWARTHAS

5.00-5.30 PM OTTAWA 1.2 CM DIAMETER H IL

5.00-6.00 PM ORLEANS 94 MM RAIN IN HALF AN HOUR

6.50 PM BATHURST/HWY 7 GOLF BALL SIZED HAIL

7.00 PM YONGE AND STEELES NICKEL SIZE (2.1 CM) HAIL


AS FAR AS LAST NIGHT'S ROUND OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS IS CONCERNED,
AN ENVIRONMENT CANADA STORM DAMAGE INVESTIGATION TEAM HAS DETERMINED
THAT THE DAMAGE IN THE ANCASTER AND GUELPH AREAS AS ALL DUE TO
STRONG STRAIGHT LINE WINDS CAUSED BY DOWNBURSTS.

THERE WERE ALSO REPORTS OF DOWNED TREES AND BUILDING DAMAGE IN
AREAS NEAR LAKE HURON AS A LINE OF THUNDERSTORMS ROARED ASHORE LATE
LAST EVENING. A SEPARATE SEVERE THUNDERSTORM SUBSEQUENTLY FORMED
NORTHWEST OF FERGUS AND THEN BROUGHT DAMAGING WINDS ACROSS
WELLINGTON COUNTY INCLUDING THE CITY OF GUELPH INTO PARTS OF
HAMILTON.

THERE WERE ALSO FREQUENT REPORTS OF INTENSE LIGHTNING AND
TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS. AT ONE POINT, A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WAS
GENERATING OVER 1700 LIGHTNING STRIKES IN ONE HOUR AS IT APPROACHED
HAMILTON OVERNIGHT.

FOLLOWING ARE SOME OF THE REPORTS OF SEVERE WEATHER RECEIVED BY
ENVIRONMENT CANADA FROM LAST NIGHT'S ROUND OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS.


TIME LOCATION EVENT

07-JUN-2011
10.00-10.30 PM UNDERWOOD TREES DOWN. DAMAGE TO BARNS.
(NE KINCARDINE)

10.30-11.00 PM KINCARDINE TREES DOWN.


10-30-11.00 PM N WALKERTON TREES DOWN.

10.30-11.00 PM ROCKFORD TREES DOWN
(S OWEN SOUND)

11.00 PM RIPLEY GARAGE BUILDING LIFTED
(S KINCARDINE) AND DESTROYED.
TREES DOWN

08-JUN-2011
12.00-12.30 AM FERGUS QUARTER SIZED HAIL

12.30-1.00 AM GUELPH NUMEROUS TREES AND TREE
LIMBS DOWN

1.00-1.30 AM ANCASTER TREES DOWN ON TOP OF THE
ESCARPMENT.


THIS WEATHER SUMMARY CONTAINS PRELIMINARY INFORMATION AND MAY NOT
CONSTITUTE AN OFFICIAL OR FINAL REPORT.

END/OSPC

obwan
06-08-2011, 09:07 PM
thanks for the summary report derecho, i'm sure theres more trees down across the countryside if you follow the path of the storm.

Nagii
06-09-2011, 02:11 AM
St.Kitts got the side end of it, nothing major really, some thunder, alittle rain, some lightning. But those two cells that made that tornado warning, they stayed together all the way into buffalo, I was amazed, especially after going over Lake Erie.

gilster
06-09-2011, 10:07 AM
Good morning folks. New here to the site but been lurking for a long time.

As the storm blew right through our neck of the woods early Wednesday morning I was wondering if a video of the radar existed showing the system come through Guelph?

Thanks!

gilster
06-09-2011, 10:14 AM
This is a pic of the next morning about 6am.

DarkSky
06-09-2011, 11:12 AM
Good morning folks. New here to the site but been lurking for a long time.

As the storm blew right through our neck of the woods early Wednesday morning I was wondering if a video of the radar existed showing the system come through Guelph?

Thanks!

I have a few radar images from when it was approaching and going through Niagara. Here's a radar loop below. I had to attach it because the animation doesn't work when I use a 3rd party image host. This was at about 2:15am :

DarkSky
06-09-2011, 11:16 AM
Other radar images :

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8704/110608tops.jpg

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/5518/1106080209radar.jpg

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6568/1106080212radar.jpg

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5486/1106080225radial.jpg

gilster
06-09-2011, 11:40 AM
Cool thanks!

I wish it had of been daylight for that storm even though it practically was with all the lightning.

WrongWay
06-09-2011, 12:16 PM
Not sure I should add Georgina June 8 storm to this thread
We got plastered with a storm last evening around 6:30pm,
Some news articles about it.
http://www.yorkregion.com/news/article/1024138--storm-lights-up-911-lines
http://www.yorkregion.com/article/1023808--ferocious-storm-worst-i-ve-seen

I was standing at a gas pump when the sky turned that odd shade of green and it let go, high winds, heavy rain, things flying around, and hail.
Lot of trees and some power polls down all over town, report of at least one house losing its roof.
Many people with no power since 6:30 last night and they were still out this morning.

Got to find someplace to get me a window mount for my camcorder!

DarkSky
06-09-2011, 02:45 PM
Not sure I should add Georgina June 8 storm to this thread

Yep! Anything in Ontario to do with a specific storm day can go into a thread if it's already created for that day.

We got plastered with a storm last evening around 6:30pm,
Some news articles about it.
http://www.yorkregion.com/news/article/1024138--storm-lights-up-911-lines
http://www.yorkregion.com/article/1023808--ferocious-storm-worst-i-ve-seen
Thanks for posting the links and personal summary!!

WrongWay
06-09-2011, 02:51 PM
Just found this hydro-one Ontario zoomable map that shows the storms damage corridor to the power grid system (110000 houses out)
http://www.hydroone.com/StormCenter/

I think it is regularly updated so as things get patched up they may disappear off the map

Hydro-one storm damage news release
http://www.hydroone.com/OurCompany/MediaCentre/Documents/NewsReleases2011/06_09_2011_Storm_Update_10AM.pdf

DarkSky
06-09-2011, 10:14 PM
June 8 damage summary :


301
AWCN11 CWTO 092325
WEATHER SUMMARY FOR ALL OF SOUTHERN ONTARIO AND THE
NATIONAL CAPITAL REGION ISSUED BY ENVIRONMENT CANADA
AT 7:25 PM EDT THURSDAY 9 JUNE 2011.

-------------------------------------------------------------
==WEATHER EVENT DISCUSSION==
AFTER RECEIVING NUMEROUS REPORTS OF DAMAGE FROM A SERIES OF
THUNDERSTORMS THAT IMPACTED VARIOUS PARTS OF SOUTHERN ONTARIO ON
WEDNESDAY JUNE 8TH, AN ENVIRONMENT CANADA DAMAGE SURVEY TEAM WAS
SENT TO TWO OF THE HARDEST HIT AREAS TO TRY AND DETERMINE THE CAUSE
OF THE DAMAGE. THE DAMAGE SURVERY TEAM VISITED THE COBOCONK AREA TO
THE EAST OF LAKE SIMCOE IN THE KAWARTHA LAKES REGION, AND MINDEN
HILLS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF HALIBURTON COUNTY. TWO POWERFUL LINES
OF THUNDERSTORMS MOVED THROUGH THESE AREA ON WEDNESDAY. THE FIRST
LINE OCCURRED BETWEEN 2 PM AND 3 PM WITH THE SECOND OCCURRING
BETWEEN 7 PM AND 8 PM. IT APPEARS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE DAMAGE
IN THE COBOCONK AND MINDEN HILLS AREAS OCCURRED WITH THE FIRST LINE
OF ACTIVITY. ALL OF THE DAMAGE THAT WAS SEEN WAS CONSISTENT WITH
DOWNBURTS OR DAMAGING WINDS AND NOT TORNADOES. SOME OF THE DAMAGE
WAS CONSISTENT WITH PEAK WINDS IN THE ORDER OF 120 TO 140 KM/H.

THE SECOND LINE OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS ALSO AFFECTED PARTS OF THE
GREATER TORONTO AREA EARLY WEDNESDAY EVENING. TORRENTIAL DOWNPOURS,
STRONG WINDS, HAIL AND INTENSE LIGHTNING WERE ASSOCIATED.

DUE TO THE LARGE NUMBER OF AREAS ACROSS SOUTHERN ONTARIO THAT
EXPERIENCED SOME FORM OF DAMAGE IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, ENVIRONMENT
CANADA WILL CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE OTHER SIGNIFICANT AREAS OF
DAMAGE AND UPDATE THIS STATEMENT ACCORDINGLY.

REPORTS OF SEVERE WEATHER THAT OCCURRED ON WEDNESDAY RECEIVED BY
ENVIRONMENT CANADA AS OF
7 PM THURSDAY ARE FOUND IN THE TABLE IMMEDIATELY BELOW.


TIME LOCATION EVENT

1.30-2.00 PM MUSKOKA DISTRICT POWER LINES DOWN
LAKE OF BAYS

1.30-2.00 PM ACTON ISLAND/ NUMEROUS TREES DOWN
MUSKOKA LAKES


1.30-2.00 PM BRACEBRIDGE POWER OUTAGE
TREES DOWN

2.00-3.00 PM MINDEN TREES DOWN/TREE DAMAGE
SOUTHERN HALIBURTON
KAWARTHAS

5.00-5.30 PM OTTAWA 1.2 CM DIAMETER HAIL

5.00-6.00 PM ORLEANS 94 MM RAIN IN HALF AN
HOUR

6.50 PM TORONTO GOLF BALL SIZED HAIL
(BATHURST/HWY 7)

7.00 PM TORONTO NICKEL SIZE (2.1CM) HAIL
(YONGE AND STEELES)


7.10 PM BOWMANVILLE 3.5 CM DIAMETER HAIL


THIS WEATHER SUMMARY CONTAINS PRELIMINARY INFORMATION AND MAY NOT
CONSTITUTE AN OFFICIAL OR FINAL REPORT.

END/OSPC